S5 Ep2 On Motherhood, Fun, Control, and Grief

In this episode, I work with a woman who starts with a seemingly benign question, "What do you do for fun?" When Estelle was asked this at a recent barbecue, she was dumbfounded to find that she had no answer. We start the episode with the question of fun, but the conversation soon turns to the bigger picture of parenting, debilitating anxiety, and moving through grief.