Ep. 26: Try. Stop. Try Again. Fail. Learn. Try Again. Fall. Stop. Just Keep Swimming.

The subject of white privilege and racism have recently challenged both of us to look at how we're using our voices in our work and also, how we're living day-to-day. We talk through some difficult questions like, What is activism? Does everyone have to be an activist? How does one know when they've done enough? This is a conversation about humility, self-examination, and trying to speak even when you will no doubt fail.